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Sudan conflict in darfur and the ICC

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USA_Lucas
GBaiardi_U.K
Sudan_BrunoAlves
Kenya_Beatriz
Rwanda_Nick
South Africa_Felipe
chad_leticia
CoChairAfrica_Pedro
ChairAfrica_Gustavo
Sudan_Cédric
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26Sudan conflict in darfur and the ICC - Page 2 Empty Re: Sudan conflict in darfur and the ICC November 5th 2009, 20:55

GBaiardi_U.K

GBaiardi_U.K

The delegate issues a formal apology for his previous 'insulting' attitude. The intent of such statement was not to offend the delegate of Sudan on any degree or level, but to succintly illustrate what the UK will seek in the following conference, in other words, the presence of the Sudanese criminals in court. The format was admittedly not appropriate and as such the delegate will refrain from repeating any comments of the sort.
Thank You.

I greatly appreciate the apology from the delegate of UK.
Debate may go on.
Oscar

27Sudan conflict in darfur and the ICC - Page 2 Empty Re: Sudan conflict in darfur and the ICC November 7th 2009, 19:19

CoChairAfrica_Pedro



That's it delegates, keep the respect
To Sudan,
"The conflict has been fueled by illicit small arms trade (which is dealt with in my resolution) and supposedly by the government itself, which is the reason for the prosecution of Mr. Omar al-Bashir. " by USA in previous posts
Maybe you could argue how your president's condemnation is based in suppositions, which could prove the lack of credibility of the court.
Pedro Teixeira

28Sudan conflict in darfur and the ICC - Page 2 Empty Re: Sudan conflict in darfur and the ICC November 10th 2009, 21:49

ChairAfrica_Gustavo



29Sudan conflict in darfur and the ICC - Page 2 Empty Re: Sudan conflict in darfur and the ICC November 11th 2009, 09:33

South Africa Rodrigo

South Africa Rodrigo

Delegate of Sudan,
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South Africa is totally against this resolution, while its in favor of the International Criminal Court decisions and actions, furthermore Sudan’s government has not respected the UN Charter and has made human rights violations, by being the mediator between inhuman permanent members and janjawed, which al-Bashir has been aiding and accomplishing all the 400,000 deaths over the conflict.
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While all this issue is happening the delegate is discussing the irrelevance of the international criminal court, further decisions has to be made, so al-Bashir can be through out of power and Darfur Conflict can end.

30Sudan conflict in darfur and the ICC - Page 2 Empty Re: Sudan conflict in darfur and the ICC November 11th 2009, 14:13

Sudan_Julia



Delegate of South Africa,
The next time you make an outrageous accusation such as the Sudanese goverment sponsoring the Janjaweed militia, please present it with facts and reliable sources.
There's no way that Al-Bashir being prosecuted will lead to the conclusion of the Darfur conflict. The only thing the prosecution can accomplish is the continuation of the issue.
Thank you.

31Sudan conflict in darfur and the ICC - Page 2 Empty Re: Sudan conflict in darfur and the ICC November 11th 2009, 19:56

USA_Lucas

USA_Lucas

Continuation of the issue?
Yes, of course. Arresting a man who has been ordering genocide and performing crimes against humanity is always bad.

32Sudan conflict in darfur and the ICC - Page 2 Empty Re: Sudan conflict in darfur and the ICC November 12th 2009, 08:13

Sudan_Cédric

Sudan_Cédric

Delegate of UK (007) :
First of all, you need to realize that the entire process of making my president going to court is just a conspiracy against my country since it covers your interests. The delegate even mentioned a partnership with the USA emphasizing the fact that there is indeed a conspiracy going on. Why are only african people prosecuted by the ICC? Because Western countries don't have any connection regarging crimes in Africa but in other continents. By focusing on Africa, it results in blindness from for example crimes against humanity of USA in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Second, the delegate also needs to recognize that while the darfur conflict were heading slowly to peace as mentioned by some UN investigators, the warrant against Bashir with the purpose of solving the conflict just made it worse. The same will happen if UK or USA wants to intervene. It is pure logic. When no international organization intervene, the conflict was leading to solving. Respect the sovereignty of Sudan and let us solve OUR problem.

33Sudan conflict in darfur and the ICC - Page 2 Empty Re: Sudan conflict in darfur and the ICC November 12th 2009, 08:21

Sudan_Cédric

Sudan_Cédric

Now regarding the delegate of USA:

3things for the delegate
First, where did the delegate see that 3 million people died due to the darfur conflict? I'd like to see the source of that.
Second, an arrest based on supositions makes no sense especially when what the UK delegate declares that he seeks justice. Supositions is NOT a proof. A case without a concrete proof is NO JUSTICE.
Third, again the delegate of Sudan would like to emphasize that not only directed to USA but all delegates that the Darfur conflict IS NOT A GENOCIDE!!!!! (the delegate hope that this time everybody understand this)

34Sudan conflict in darfur and the ICC - Page 2 Empty Re: Sudan conflict in darfur and the ICC November 12th 2009, 08:30

Rwanda_Nick

Rwanda_Nick

The delegate of Rwanda completely agrees with the delegate of Sudan. the ICC is dupposed to be a fair court, judging people according to their actions and crimes, but most of the cases dealt with by the ICC were in africa, in third worldcountries or developing countries. This was done while the US comminted various crimes against humanity in Aghanistan, Iraq and Guantanamo Bay, and such atrocities commited by the USA werent even brought as a subject by the ICC
The ICC is a western based corrupt organization, it's purpose is to control the evolution of weak developing countries. the ICC should be midifyed so that it trials all people with proof instead of suppositions.
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35Sudan conflict in darfur and the ICC - Page 2 Empty Re: Sudan conflict in darfur and the ICC November 12th 2009, 09:20

Sudan_Cédric

Sudan_Cédric

I would like to complement rwanda's delegate post by saying that not only USa committed crimes agaisnt humanity wihtout being trialed but also governments connected with the GAZA war and the Sri Lanka war and tamil tigers.

36Sudan conflict in darfur and the ICC - Page 2 Empty Re: Sudan conflict in darfur and the ICC November 17th 2009, 14:37

Sudan_Cédric

Sudan_Cédric

the delegate of sudan

would like to express its concern with the warrant of the ICC towards Bashir and would like to emphazise the fact that by voting in favor of the resolution not only the african coutries would be benefit but the entire world.
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