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North Korea's nuclear threat!

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76 LOL on October 21st 2009, 17:55

Delegate your last post has made me laugh "and japan will not accept this". Delegate, we have never planed on testing any nuclear aparatus over the seas of Japan in such way that might be prejudicial to the nearby population. All our nuclear tests are being held in secure locations, the missiles serve merely as transportation testing.

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77 Re: North Korea's nuclear threat! on October 21st 2009, 18:52

to the delegate of North Korea laughing

The fact that the population will not suffer from the radiation during the tests, the sea pollution etc may be true;

check that little link just for fun


and here is a little video showing the explosion of Hiroshima bomb in Japan

The nuclear weapons, including the nuclear bombs, releases tones of energy, which will make the project anti-global warming be harder. Luckily, the nuclear bombs do NOT releases CO2 during any explosions, or it will be forbidden since its creation.

"As the soil is contaminated by the radioactive particles, the soil could not grow crops. All plants turns to lifeless", the delegate of Japan doesn't think that the UN would want any more places to be devastated that way, EVEN if the places are completely secured and not used by any humans.

Can the delegate of North Korea explain me what does "the missiles serve merely as transportation testing" means please?
Mad

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78 Explanation... on October 21st 2009, 18:58

Delegate many countries today continue their nuclear testing in specified areas and the UN simply disregards them, there is simply no reason to consider NK diferently. Furthermore, the missiles we have been testing do not contain nuclear bombs! They simply contain normal explosives and are being tested so as to improve our missile capability. To the moment we have only tested two nuclear bombs both of which were conducted in safe military facilities!

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79 Re: North Korea's nuclear threat! on October 21st 2009, 19:43

The delegate of Japan would like to know when and in which safe militar facilities were those nuclear bombs tested.

The delegation of Japan would like to let NK know that even if the missils were normal explosive missiles used to better develop your own missil technology and that it was tested from a safe distance from the continent of Japan, it still bothers to have a country sending missils in our seas. Especially if it is a country that dislikes Japan.

And NK is always saying that this Nuclear Weapon Programm is just to keep NK safe from the US but i don't see how US might be interested in bombing NK. And the delegate would like to add that NK could stop producing Nuclear Weapons in exchange of protection from other countries.

The delegation doesn't deny that most of the world does not feel safe with NK having Nuclear Weapons, in fact Japan believes that only NK allies feel safe with this situation. But this needs a better solution that fighting Nukes with more Nukes. So the delegation of Japan would like to know what could be some of the demands that NK would prefer so we (UN and other countries against NK Nuclear Weapon Programm) could satisfy them (if possible) to finnish this "need" for Nuclear Weapons.

Delegacy of Japan, Rafael Rios

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80 More Data on October 21st 2009, 20:17

Delegate of Japan,

The most I can inform you about location is that the tests were conducted near Kilju which is located in Northeastern portion of our country, details are confidential and unecessary. Furthermore, is the delegate aware of the number of people injured by nuclear tests during the cold war, 100,000 only in USA and this opressive nation continues to influence the opinion of the international community without paying for its errors. Different from the USA there has been no notices of radiation poisoning due to our tests...

The delegates proposals in its final topics are simply naive. "don't see how US might be interested in bombing NK", just look at their arsenals being kept at our borders, 100 million dollars every year! If that is not enough note how many wars USA has engaged in the past years, over 250 conflicts since WWII!

The only way of gaining protection is by holding powers of such weapons, unless someone brings an actual viable proposal...
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More details on acceptance can only be discussed by my GA coleague as I am not the drafter of NK's GA resolution.

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81 Re: North Korea's nuclear threat! on October 21st 2009, 20:30

The delegacy of Japan would like to explain what he wrote:

1-US is in the DMZ due to SK request.
2-The reson why it is there and contantly incresing is because NK threat to SK increases as well.
3-The delegacy of Japan can understand SK need for US's aid since a Nuke is the biggest devastating weapon in the world and Japan already felt how strong it is.
4- US never threated to invade or attack NK. The only concern of US is how the Nuclear Bomb will be used for other means othere than protection.
5- If US reveals no interest in NK why do you need protection???

The Delegacy of Japan, Rafael Rios

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82 Re: North Korea's nuclear threat! on October 21st 2009, 21:03

South Korea_Alana wrote:Delegate of Venezuela,
The reason why South Korea is pressuring North Korea government is not so they can become a democracy, but so they can take a steep forward, meet with South Koreans government and try to FINALLY do a peace agreement after the KOREAN WAR, that was the war that divided Korea after the Japanese invasion.
Delegate of South Korea

Delegate, why do you think this peace agreement wasn't done before? The thing is, South Korea never respected NK's government after the war; South Korea never wanted peace after the war. Nuclear weapons is something very serious, NK wouldn't start a nuclear weapon program out of nothing.

Every cause have an effect. South Korea need to understand its not NK who need to change first, it South Korea.

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83 Where is the evidence? on October 23rd 2009, 18:57

The delegate of Japan has shown that he is adept at creating claims but arguments are not constitued of such; where is the evidence and warrant? How can the delegate affirm that US yields no interest in NK as this opressive nation has openly characterized our country as member of the "Axis of Evil"? Furthermore, delegate, USA has already invaded our nation in a trial to corrupt our socialism with capitalistic ideals, if it wasn't for our loyal allies (China, Russia, etc) we would be today taking more time choosing a shampoo than enjoying life!

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84 Re: North Korea's nuclear threat! on October 23rd 2009, 23:45

The delagate of Japan is sorry for making that statement without proofs. But the delegacy of Japan would like to say that the defenition of capitalistic life was a bit exagerated, especially since most countries in the world are capitalistic and they are happy with it. We understand that NK is not interested in a capitalistic economy and that it might have been imposed to NK by the US but the delegacy of Japan would like to ask for the delegate of NK, to be less insultive to the people that live under a capitalistic regime.

Since the delegate couldn't find the information that NK stated, could the delgate of NK post one or two sources that prove it's statement?

The delegacy of Japan, Rafael Rios

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85 A brief history... on October 24th 2009, 08:23

Delegate here is a brief history of my country regarding this issues:

Around the 1850's my nation was one of the few places in Asia that had not yet suffered the imperialistic effect from the west. Britain, France and US had all failed in imposing capitalism in North Korea. That was until Japan forced, through military power, North Korea to sign the treaty of Kanghwa which allowed your nation [Japan] special trading rights and priveledges over our country. After that pierce we became vulnerable, allowing other nations such as the USA to create treaties of close nature.

After fighting wars with China and Russia your country (1894-1895 & 1904-1905) anexed ours as a colony (1910). Your colonialism was "often harsh and opressive" and ended only in 1945!

The division of our nation in North and South was given by another reason: During the cold war our forces surrendered in a division; USA in the South and Soviet Union in the North.

This quote spoken by US Foreign Officer is very intriguing: "No division of a nation in the present world is so astoniching in its origin as the division of Korea; none is so unrelated to conditions or sentiment within the nation itself (...); none is to this day so unexplained; in none does blunder and planning oversight appear to have played so large a role. Finally, there is no division for which U.S. goverment bears so heavy a share of responsability as it bears for the division of Korea."

Failing to reach an agreement after the separation USA imposed a hard-line anti-communist regime in the South lead by Syngman Rhee. In the North, Kim Il Sung gained power and renaimed our nation as the Democratic People's Republic of Korea. Trying the reunification of the Korea's the Korean war had begun. After the capturing of Seoul by our state, USA, lead by president Truman, decided to intervene as to hault communnist expansion; using its influence it urged the UN, which at the time did not count with the presence of China and Soviet Union, to send troops. We were than defeated and a truce was negotiated which South Korea refused to sign. Hence the creation of of the DMZ and animosities...

The most interesting fact of all is that USA sent during the conflict nuclear weapons which were only removed in the year of 1991! Today [survey takken in 2007] over 28,500 troops still remain the South Korea.

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By understanding this brief explanation the delegation of North Korea cannot seem to understand how any nation could be against our current nuclear program or at least not undestand its origin. Furthermore, the delegate would like to point out that all nations currently against North Korea were involved in previous North Korean intervention...
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For the delegate of Japan: All information here contained were takken from the Watson Institute for International Studies at Brown University.



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86 Re: North Korea's nuclear threat! on October 25th 2009, 22:23

as it has been stated before by a number of delegates, NK does NOT intend to kill any people of Japan with their nuclear weapons or nuclear test. Delegates of Japan, the delegate would also like to inform that Paksitan and Japan have long term trade relations and as the delegateofPakistan, i hope that this does not damage our relationship. But NK does NOT intend to use nuclear weapons non peacefully and that has been proved. especially in previous sites given.

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87 Re: North Korea's nuclear threat! on October 25th 2009, 22:58

pakistan_kris wrote:as it has been stated before by a number of delegates, NK does NOT intend to kill any people of Japan with their nuclear weapons or nuclear test. Delegates of Japan, the delegate would also like to inform that Paksitan and Japan have long term trade relations and as the delegateofPakistan, i hope that this does not damage our relationship. But NK does NOT intend to use nuclear weapons non peacefully and that has been proved. especially in previous sites given.
Delegate of Pakistan,
In the minute North Korea started producing nuclear weapons and threatening 3 other countries it disturbed the peace in the international community.
South Korean Delegate,
Marina

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88 Please Read on October 26th 2009, 06:54

Delegate of South Korea, it seems to me that you have failed to read my previous post [number 85] please check it, for it specifies the answer to your recurring question...

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89 Re: North Korea's nuclear threat! on October 26th 2009, 15:41

"We were than defeated and a truce was negotiated which South Korea refused to sign. Hence the creation of of the DMZ and animosities..."

Delegate, of North Korea
Your country and South Korea DID take part in a truce... the Korean War Armstice Agreement in 1953 for the complete cessation of hostilities. It was this agreement that lead to the creation of the DMZ. Unfortunately, this supposidly temporary measure has not been extended to a peace treaty between our countries... To make matters worse, on May 27th, 2009 North Korea said the truce was no longer valid after threatning to attack South Korea if ships from the North were searched as a part of U.S led efforts to stop vessels suspected for carrying weapons of mass destruction.

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90 Re: North Korea's nuclear threat! on October 26th 2009, 21:49

South Korea_Marina wrote:In the minute North Korea started producing nuclear weapons and threatening 3 other countries it disturbed the peace in the international community.
South Korean Delegate,
Marina

Delegate, the minute SK joined forces with US to put pressure into North Korea's government; it began threatening North Korea's citizens, territory, government and the nation as a whole. North Korea's nuclear weapons should come to an end, however the Korean War has already ended, SK became a democracy and NK became a socialist nation and the conflict between democracy and socialism was suppose to end too. NK never threatened SK's government after the war, not muck like SK. Now, because SK couldn't respect and understand the Korean War's end and any other type of government, the peace in the international community has been disturbed.

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91 Re: North Korea's nuclear threat! on October 26th 2009, 22:53

Delegate of Venezuela,

As my fellow South Korean delegates have stated several times, South Korea has no intention of intervening with NK’s socialist form of government. Please understand that the reason the DMZ stands is for protection after the cease-fire NOT for a difference in political opinion or any political disagreements. The fact that my country is allied and helped by the U.S at our borders does not imply that we “threaten” your country’s citizens, territory, or government It means that we have sought for and accepted protection towards NK, our nuclear neighbor. Please be specific when saying that SK does not “respect or understand” the North Korean government, also please elaborate on our “threats” that have disturbed international community…

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92 Re: North Korea's nuclear threat! on October 28th 2009, 18:22

DELEGATE OF SOUTH KOREA: The delegate's nation is aligned to the northern American nation known for violating SC resolution, NPT, human rights. US have lied about Iraq, helped Colombia invade Ecuador, was present in expulsing the president of Honduras of his position in June this years.... US have proven that no nation can trust them. Even though Venezuela believes South Korea will try to spread democracy in NK, maybe South Korea has no intension too, but the US has, and they are very dangerous.

The crime the delegate of Venezuela stated above regarding Iraq's fake weapons of mass destruction, Colombia invading Ecuador, and the Honduran democratic president being ousted from his position were all crimes committed this century with US involvement. All US did with these countries, could be happening in North Korea right now with the help of its Western Asian allies, however North Korea's nuclear weapons are holding them back. Venezuela is against nuclear weapons at any measures, but it against crimes that affect a nation's sovereignty, territory and mainly the citizens. And Venezuela won't let what happen in these countries happen in North Korea.

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93 Re: North Korea's nuclear threat! on October 28th 2009, 20:04

Venezuela,

Choosing to antagonize the United States, just as your president does, does not justify a valid reason for a possible future violation of North Korea’s sovereignty by the U.S OR SOUTH KOREA. This Colombian “American-lead” invasion of Ecuador you mentioned.. was actually a Colombian lead operation to kill one of the most dangerous farc terrorists, Raul Reyes, who was responsible for many innocent lives in Colombia. And the ousting of the Honduran president was advocated by the military, congress, and people of Honduras: Manuel Zelaya was removed from office because he was pushing an illegal ballot referendum for an extended stay in office.

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Delegate of South Korea,

An armisitice, as the one signed in 1953, is completely dissimilar to the truce my delegation has previously reffered; technically our two nations are still at war! Furthermore delegate, with the continuation of this unecessary searches and mounting of troops in the DMZ we have no other option than to continue our nuclear pogram and hope your nation comes to sense...

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95 Re: North Korea's nuclear threat! on October 29th 2009, 15:14

US have lied about Iraq, helped Colombia invade Ecuador, was present in expulsing the president of Honduras of his position in June this years....
Delegate of Venezuela

The USA delegate in power, George Bush, can be concidered as a bad president: he made mistakes about Iraq, Columbia, North Korea etc... he did those mistakes volontarily because he knew that he would win something out of going to war. But now delegates, US can be less concidered as a country as terrible and unrespectful as it was 2 years ago: now the new president Barack Obama, who already recieved the nobel price of the year, took power recently.

The delegate of Japan would like to say that today, the decisions taken by US are going to be different from the mistakes made before, and US becomes once again trustable country.



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96 ~ on October 29th 2009, 22:28

Delegates,
The delegation of Afghanistan wants to emphasize that it wants a "nuclear free asia". In 2006, the Afghan Foreign Ministry expressed its profound concern and dissaproval of the North Korean nuclear test.Delegates, a nuclear North Korea will be threat to the world.A unstable country cannot posses such a important weapon.And why does the delegate consider North Korea as a unstable country?Because they are ruled by a dictator, they are ruled by a tyrant, their country is focused on the will of a single person.Delegates, what might a person such as Kim Jong-Il do if he has at hands a weapon of such catastrophic power?Lets not wait to find out.Delegates.....food crisis has hit North Korea for sometime already. The World Food Program (WFP) has said that more than 6.2 million people in North Korea are in desperate need of food this year.Delegates, food priority in North Korea is to first feed the army, and leave the rest, if theres any, for the citizens. Can this be considered a stable country?Can this be considered a country capable of having at their hands a nuclear weapon?

See you guys soon,
Afghanistan delegation

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97 Re: North Korea's nuclear threat! on October 30th 2009, 09:03

The delegacy of Japan would like to emphasize that everyone makes mistakes. It is true that US did a lot of them but the point is that evolution is not achivable if we keep worrying about the past. The delegacy is not saying that people shouldn't pay for it's mistakes but sometimes only takes ONE bad leader, ONE wrong action to make a WHOLE country lot bad. Japan knows that, probably better that anyone because WE got to Nuclear Weapon Wastelands and US could have deleted us from the face of the earth but instead he helped us becoming a new country and to grow. Japan honestly believes that the election of Obama was the turning of the page of US history towards a world of peace.

The delegacy of Japan, Rafael Rios

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98 Re: North Korea's nuclear threat! on October 30th 2009, 11:18

ALL DELEGATES,

The North Korean Delegation wants to make it clear to everyone that North Korea has turned in it's resolution and from this point on will NOT be changing it's views or ideas about nucler weapons

North Korean Delegate,
Tyler Simpson

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99 Re: North Korea's nuclear threat! on October 31st 2009, 13:17

DELEGATE OF SOUTH KOREA: Not that this have anything to do with North Korea, but its not fair to let you un aware of the issues. From who do you think Colombia receives arms? Uribe has no power in Colombia, all the actions took by the Colombian government was under US' influence. How do you think the military coup was able to exile Manuel Zelaya? They landed on a US military base with over 500 US military soldiers.

DELEGATE OF JAPAN: There is no such things as a good leader, and a bad one. Everyone has a different view of a perfect world, that's what generate North Korea's nuclear weapons program after all. Obama doesn't control 100% of the United States, and if he did, we can just conclude that Obama will not follow the bloody/dirty path the US chose to follow. Just because people sell t-shirts with Obama face, and make jingles with his words dosen't mean he will be morally correct, US HAS PROVEN ITSELF TO BE TRUSTWORTHY.

Venezuela seeks for the end of North Korea's nuclear weapons program, but it won't help it come to an end if the protection of the nation as a whole isn't ensured.

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100 Re: North Korea's nuclear threat! on October 31st 2009, 16:12

North Korea,
"with the continuation of this unecessary searches and mounting of troops in the DMZ we have no other option than to continue our nuclear pogram and hope your nation comes to sense..."
So... hypothetically, would your nation consider dismantling your nuclear program if one day a peace treaty was established replacing SK's arsenal and U.S military troops with UN peacekeepers along the DMZ?
and what truce was the delegate refering to that i misunderstood?

Venezuela,

It is completely unreasonable to say Uribe has no power in Colombia. Yes, the U.S has joined Colombia and together they have lead a successful collaboration to eradicate illicit drug production and trade: this U.S-involved procedure has so far had a positive outcome. Since when does an allied collaboration automatically undermine the power of a country’s leader? Especially when the leader has an 80% approval rate from the nation’s citizens.
It seems that in the midst of shooting down the U.S for all of its attempts that didn’t go as planned, the world has forgotten its beneficence in aiding other countries like those in Western Europe, and my nation, South Korea- which we owe all our international and economic stability to the U.S.

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